High zinc sensitivity and pore formation in an invertebrate P2X receptor

To investigate fast purinergic signaling in invertebrates, we examined the functional properties of a P2X receptor subunit cloned from the parasitic platyhelminth Schistosoma mansoni. This purinoceptor (SmP2X) displays unambiguous homology of primary sequence with vertebrate P2X subunits. SmP2X subunits assemble into homomeric ATP-gated channels that exhibit slow activation kinetics and are blocked by suramin and PPADS but not TNP-ATP. SmP2X mediates the uptake of the dye YO-PRO-1 through the formation of large pores and can be blocked by submicromolar concentrations of extracellular Zn2+ ions (IC50 = 0.4 microM). The unique receptor phenotype defined by SmP2X suggests that slow kinetics, modulation by zinc and the ability to form large pores are ancestral properties of P2X receptors. The high sensitivity of SmP2X to zinc further reveals a zinc regulation requirement for the parasite's physiology that could potentially be exploited for therapeutic purposes.     

P2X7 receptor activation induces cell death and microparticle release in murine erythroleukemia cells

Extracellular ATP induces cation fluxes in and impairs the growth of murine erythroleukemia (MEL) cells in a manner characteristic of the purinergic P2X7 receptor, however the presence of P2X7 in these cells is unknown. This study investigated whether MEL cells express functional P2X7. RT-PCR, immunoblotting and immunofluorescence staining demonstrated the presence of P2X7 in MEL cells. Cytofluorometric measurements demonstrated that ATP induced ethidium⁺ uptake into MEL cells in a concentration-dependent fashion and with an EC₅₀ of ∼ 154 μM. The most potent P2X7 agonist 2′- and 3′-0(4-benzoylbenzoyl) ATP, but not ADP or UTP, induced ethidium⁺ uptake. ATP-induced ethidium⁺ and YO-PRO-1²⁺ uptake were impaired by the P2X7 antagonist, A-438079. A colourmetric assay demonstrated that ATP impaired MEL cell growth. A cytofluorometric assay showed that ATP induced MEL cell death and that this process was impaired by A-438079. Finally, cytofluorometric measurements of Annexin-V binding and bio-maleimide staining demonstrated that ATP could induce rapid phosphatidylserine exposure and microparticle release in MEL cells respectively, both of which were impaired by A-438079. These results demonstrate that MEL cells express functional P2X7, and indicate that activation of this receptor may be important in the death and release of microparticles from red blood cells in vivo.     

Stationary Gating of GluN1/GluN2B Receptors in Intact Membrane Patches

NMDA receptors are heteromeric glutamate-gated channels composed of GluN1 and GluN2 subunits. Receptor isoforms that differ in their GluN2-subunit type (A-D) are expressed differentially throughout the central nervous system and have distinct kinetic properties in recombinant systems. How specific receptor isoforms contribute to the functions generally attributed to NMDA receptors remains unknown, due in part to the incomplete functional characterization of individual receptor types and unclear molecular composition of native receptors. We examined the stationary gating kinetics of individual rat recombinant GluN1/GluN2B receptors in cell-attached patches of transiently transfected HEK293 cells and used kinetic analyses and modeling to describe the full range of this receptor's gating behaviors. We found that, like GluN1/GluN2A receptors, GluN1/GluN2B receptors have three gating modes that are distinguishable by their mean open durations. However, for GluN1/GluN2B receptors, the modes also differed markedly in their mean closed durations and thus generated a broader range of open probabilities. We also found that regardless of gating mode, glutamate dissociation occurred ∼4-fold more slowly (k₋ = 15 s⁻¹) compared to that observed in GluN1/GluN2A receptors. On the basis of these results, we suggest that slow glutamate dissociation and modal gating underlie the long heterogeneous activations of GluN1/GluN2B receptors.     

Ginseng Gintonin Activates the Human Cardiac Delayed Rectifier K+ Channel: Involvement of Ca2+/Calmodulin Binding Sites

Gintonin, a novel, ginseng-derived G protein-coupled lysophosphatidic acid (LPA) receptor ligand, elicits [Ca²⁺]_i transients in neuronal and non-neuronal cells via pertussis toxin-sensitive and pertussis toxin-insensitive G proteins. The slowly activating delayed rectifier K⁺ (I_Ks) channel is a cardiac K⁺ channel composed of KCNQ1 and KCNE1 subunits. The C terminus of the KCNQ1 channel protein has two calmodulin-binding sites that are involved in regulating I_Ks channels. In this study, we investigated the molecular mechanisms of gintonin-mediated activation of human I_Ks channel activity by expressing human I_Ks channels in Xenopus oocytes. We found that gintonin enhances I_Ks channel currents in concentration- and voltage-dependent manners. The EC₅₀ for the I_Ks channel was 0.05 ± 0.01 μg/ml. Gintonin-mediated activation of the I_Ks channels was blocked by an LPA1/3 receptor antagonist, an active phospholipase C inhibitor, an IP₃ receptor antagonist, and the calcium chelator BAPTA. Gintonin-mediated activation of both the I_Ks channel was also blocked by the calmodulin (CaM) blocker calmidazolium. Mutations in the KCNQ1 [Ca²⁺]_i/CaM-binding IQ motif sites (S373P, W392R, or R539W)blocked the action of gintonin on I_Ks channel. However, gintonin had no effect on hERG K⁺ channel activity. These results show that gintonin-mediated enhancement of I_Ks channel currents is achieved through binding of the [Ca²⁺]_i/CaM complex to the C terminus of KCNQ1 subunit.     

P2X7 receptor antagonists display agonist-like effects on cell signaling proteins

Background

The activation of various P2 receptors (P2R) by extracellular nucleotides promotes diverse cellular events, including the stimulation of cell signaling protein and increases in [Ca²⁺]_i. We report that some agents that can block P2X₇R receptors also promote diverse P2X₇R-independent effects on cell signaling.

Methods

We exposed native rat parotid acinar cells, salivary gland cell lines (Par-C10, HSY, HSG), and PC12 cells to suramin, DIDS (4,4′-diisothiocyano stilbene-2,2′-disulfonic acid), Cibacron Blue 3GA, Brilliant Blue G, and the P2X₇R-selective antagonist A438079, and examined the activation/phosphorylation of ERK1/2, PKCδ, Src, CDCP1, and other signaling proteins.

Results

With the exception of suramin, these agents blocked the phosphorylation of ERK1/2 by BzATP in rat parotid acinar cells; but higher concentrations of suramin blocked ATP-stimulated ⁴⁵Ca²⁺ entry. Aside from A438079, these agents increased the phosphorylation of ERK1/2, Src, PKCδ, and other proteins (including Dok-1) within minutes in an agent- and cell type-specific manner in the absence of a P2X₇R ligand. The stimulatory effect of these compounds on the tyrosine phosphorylation of CDCP1 and its Src-dependent association with PKCδ was blocked by knockdown of CDCP1, which also blocked Src and PKCδ phosphorylation.

Conclusions

Several agents used as P2X₇R blockers promote the activation of various signaling proteins and thereby act more like receptor agonists than antagonists.

General significance

Some compounds used to block P2 receptors have complicated effects that may confound their use in blocking receptor activation and other biological processes for which they are employed, including their use as blockers of various ion transport proteins.     

Identification of P2X2/P2X4/P2X6 heterotrimeric receptors using atomic force microscopy (AFM) imaging

Seven P2X purinergic receptor subunits have been identified: P2X1–P2X7. The overlapping expression of P2X2, P2X4 and P2X6 subunits has been shown in different cell types, and functional analysis of P2X receptors in Leydig cells suggests that the three subunits might interact. Here, His₆-tagged P2X2, HA-tagged P2X4 and FLAG-tagged P2X6 subunits were co-expressed in tsA 201 cells. After sequential co-immunoprecipitation using anti-HA and anti-FLAG beads, all three subunits were present, demonstrating their interaction. Atomic force microscopy (AFM) imaging revealed receptors that were specifically decorated by both an anti-His₆ antibody and an anti-HA Fab fragment, indicating the presence of a P2X2/4/6 heterotrimer. To our knowledge, this is the first report of a P2X receptor containing three different subunits.     

The specific,submicromolar-Km ADP-ribose pyrophosphatase purified from human placenta is enzymically indistinguishable from recombinant NUDT9 protein,including a selectivity for Mn as activating cation and increase in Km for ADP-ribose,both elicited by H2O2

Free ADP-ribose is a putative second messenger and also a potentially toxic compound due to its non-enzymic reactivity towards protein side chains. ADP-ribose hydrolysis is catalysed by NDP-sugar/alcohol pyrophosphatases of differing specificity, including a highly specific, low-K_m ADP-ribose pyrophosphatase. In humans, a submicromolar-K_m ADP-ribose pyrophosphatase has been purified from placenta, while recombinant NUDT9 has been described as a similarly specific enzyme with a nudix motif, but with a 10²–10³ higher K_m. Here, a comparative study of both proteins is presented showing that they are in fact enzymically indistinguishable; crucially, they both have submicromolar K_m for ADP-ribose. This study firmly supports the view that the ADP-ribose pyrophosphatase present in human tissues is a product of the NUDT9 gene. In addition, this study reveals previously unknown properties of both enzyme forms. They display the same, differential properties in the presence of Mg²⁺ or Mn²⁺ as activating cations with respect to substrate specificity, ADP-ribose saturation kinetics, and inhibition by fluoride. Treatment with H₂O₂ alters the Mg²⁺/Mn²⁺ responses and increases the K_m values for ADP-ribose, changes that are reversed by DTT. The results are discussed in relation to the proposed roles for ADP-ribose in oxidative/nitrosative stress and for ADP-ribose pyrophosphatase as a protective enzyme whose function is to limit the intracellular accumulation of ADP-ribose.     

2′, 3′-<Emphasis Type="Italic">O</Emphasis>-(4-benzoylbenzoyl)–ATP-mediated calcium signaling in rat glioma C6 cells: role of the P2Y<Subscript>2</Subscript> nucleotide receptor

In this study, we examined the response of glioma C6 cells to 2′,3′-O-(4-benzoylbenzoyl)-ATP (BzATP) and showed that the BzATP-induced calcium signaling does not involve the P2X₇ receptor activity. We show here that in the absence of extracellular Ca²⁺, BzATP-generated increase in [Ca²⁺]_i via Ca²⁺ release from intracellular stores. In the presence of calcium ions, BzATP established a biphasic Ca²⁺ response, in a manner typical for P2Y receptors. Brilliant Blue G, a selective antagonist of the rat P2X₇ receptor, did not reduce any of the two components of the Ca²⁺ response elicited by BzATP. Periodate-oxidized ATP blocked not only BzATP- but also UTP-induced Ca²⁺ elevation. Moreover, BzATP did not open large transmembrane pores. What is more, a cross-desensitization between UTP and BzATP occurred, which clearly shows that in glioma C6 cells BzATP activates most likely the P2Y₂ but not the P2X₇ receptors.     

Thermal dependence of cardiac SR Ca-ATPase from fish and mammals

The thermal sensitivity of metabolic performance in vertebrates requires a better understanding of the temperature sensitivity of cardiac function. The cardiac sarco/endoplasmic reticulum Ca²⁺-ATPase (SERCA2) is vital for excitation–contraction (E–C) coupling and intracellular Ca²⁺ homeostasis in heart cells. To better understand the thermal dependency of cardiac output in vertebrates, we present comparative analyses of the thermal kinetics properties of SERCA2 from ectothermic and endothermic vertebrates. We directly compare SR ventricular microsomal preparations using similar experimental conditions from sarcoplasmic reticulum isolated from cardiac tissues of mammals and fish. The experiments were designed to delineate the thermal sensitivity of SERCA2 and its role in thermal sensitivity Ca²⁺ uptake and E–C coupling. Ca²⁺ transport in the microsomal SR fractions from rabbit and bigeye tuna (Thunnus obesus) ventricles were temperature dependent. In contrast, ventricular SR preparations from coho salmon (Onchorhychus kisutch) were less temperature dependent and cold tolerant, displaying Ca²⁺ uptake as low as 5 °C. As a consequence, the Q₁₀ values in coho salmon were low over a range of different temperature intervals. Maximal Ca²⁺ transport activity for each species occurred in a different temperature range, indicating species-specific thermal preferences for SERCA2 activity. The mammalian enzyme displayed maximal Ca²⁺ uptake activity at 35 °C, whereas the fish (tuna and salmon) had maximal activity at 30 °C. At 35 °C, the rate of Ca²⁺ uptake catalyzed by the bigeye tuna SERCA2 decreased, but not the rate of ATP hydrolysis. In contrast, the salmon SERCA2 enzyme lost its activity at 35 °C, and ATP hydrolysis was also impaired. We hypothesize that SERCA2 catalysis is optimized for species-specific temperatures experienced in natural habitats and that cardiac aerobic scope is limited when excitation–contraction coupling is impaired at low or high temperatures due to loss of SERCA2 enzymatic function.     

Blockade of murine T cell activation by antagonists of P2Y6 and P2X7 receptors

Extracellular nucleotides and their metabolites activate ionotropic P2X and metabotropic P2Y receptors on the surface of various types of cells. Here, we investigated the involvement of P2X and P2Y receptor-mediated signaling in TCR-dependent T cell activation. Murine T cells were activated by stimulation of TCR, and both CD25 expression and interleukin (IL)-2 production were observed in activated T cells. Ecto-nucleotidase apyrase and P2Y₆ antagonist MRS2578 significantly blocked the increases of both CD25 expression and IL-2 production, and P2X₇ antagonists A438079 and oxidized ATP inhibited IL-2 production rather than CD25 expression, suggesting the involvement of P2Y₆ and P2X₇ receptors in different processes of T cell activation. MRS2578 also blocked TCR-dependent elevation of cytosolic Ca²⁺ in T cells. The P2X₇ and P2Y₆ receptors were expressed in murine CD4 T cells. In conclusion, our results indicate that activation of P2Y₆ and P2X₇ receptors contributes to T cell activation via TCR.     

[Ca2+]i Oscillations and IL-6 Release Induced by α-Hemolysin from Escherichia coli Require P2 Receptor Activation in Renal Epithelia

Urinary tract infections are commonly caused by α-hemolysin (HlyA)-producing Escherichia coli. In erythrocytes, the cytotoxic effect of HlyA is strongly amplified by P2X receptors, which are activated by extracellular ATP released from the cytosol of the erythrocytes. In renal epithelia, HlyA causes reversible [Ca²⁺]_i oscillations, which trigger interleukin-6 (IL-6) and IL-8 release. We speculate that this effect is caused by HlyA-induced ATP release from the epithelial cells and successive P2 receptor activation. Here, we demonstrate that HlyA-induced [Ca²⁺]_i oscillations in renal epithelia were completely prevented by scavenging extracellular ATP. In accordance, HlyA was unable to inflict any [Ca²⁺]_i oscillations in 132-1N1 cells, which lack P2R completely. After transfecting these cells with the hP2Y₂ receptor, HlyA readily triggered [Ca²⁺]_i oscillations, which were abolished by P2 receptor antagonists. Moreover, HlyA-induced [Ca²⁺]_i oscillations were markedly reduced in medullary thick ascending limbs isolated from P2Y₂ receptor-deficient mice compared with wild type. Interestingly, the following HlyA-induced IL-6 release was absent in P2Y₂ receptor-deficient mice. This suggests that HlyA induces ATP release from renal epithelia, which via P2Y₂ receptors is the main mediator of HlyA-induced [Ca²⁺]_i oscillations and IL-6 release. This supports the notion that ATP signaling occurs early during bacterial infection and is a key player in the further inflammatory response.     

Regulation by CRAMP of the responses of murine peritoneal macrophages to extracellular ATP

Peritoneal macrophages were isolated from wild type (WT) mice and from mice invalidated for the P2X₇ receptor (KO) which had been pretreated with thioglycolate. In cells from WT mice, 1 mM ATP increased the intracellular concentration of calcium ([Ca²⁺]_i), the uptake of ethidium bromide, the production of reactive oxygen species (ROS), the secretion of IL-1β, the release of oleic acid and of lactate dehydrogenase; it decreased the intracellular concentration of potassium ([K⁺]_i). In KO mice, ATP transiently increased the [Ca²⁺]_i confirming that the P2X₇ receptor is a major receptor of peritoneal macrophages. WKYMVm, an agonist of receptors for formylated peptides (FPR) also increased the [Ca²⁺]_i in murine macrophages. The slight increase of the [Ca²⁺]_i was strongly potentiated by ivermectin confirming the expression of functional P2X₄ receptors by murine peritoneal macrophages. CRAMP, the unique antimicrobial peptide derived from cathelin in mouse inhibited all the responses coupled to P2X₇ receptors in macrophages from WT mice. Agonists for FPR had no effect on the increase of the [Ca²⁺]_i in response to ATP. CRAMP had no effect on the increase of the [Ca²⁺]_i evoked by a combination of ATP and ivermectin in macrophages from P2X₇-KO mice.In summary CRAMP inhibits the responses secondary to the activation of the murine P2X₇ receptors expressed by peritoneal macrophages. This inhibition is not mediated by FPR receptors and is specific since CRAMP has no effect on the response coupled to P2X₄ receptors. It can thus be concluded that the interaction between P2X₇ receptors and cathelin-derived antimicrobial peptides is species-specific, in some cases (man) positive in others (mouse) negative.     

Expression of functional mammal flavocytochrome b558 in yeast: Comparison with improved insect cell system

Activity of phagocyte NADPH-oxidase relies on the assembly of five proteins, among them the transmembrane flavocytochrome b₅₅₈ (Cytb₅₅₈) which consists of a heterodimer of the gp91^phox and p22^phox subunits. The Cytb₅₅₈ is the catalytic core of the NADPH-oxidase that generates a superoxide anion from oxygen by using a reducing equivalent provided by NADPH via FAD and two hemes. We report a novel strategy to engineer and produce the stable and functional recombinant Cytb₅₅₈ (rCytb₅₅₈). We expressed the gp91^phox and p22^phox subunits using the baculovirus insect cell and, for the first time, the highly inducible Pichia pastoris system. In both hosts, the expression of the full-length proteins reproduced native electrophoretic patterns demonstrating that the two polypeptides are present and, that gp91^phox undergoes co-translational glycosylation. Spectroscopic analyses showed that the rCytb₅₅₈ displayed comparable spectral properties to neutrophil Cytb₅₅₈. In contrast to rCytb₅₅₈ produced in the insect cells with higher yield, the enzyme expressed in yeast displayed a superoxide dismutase-sensitive NADPH-oxidase activity, indicating a superoxide generation activity. It was also blocked by an inhibitor of the respiratory burst oxidase, diphenylene iodonium (DPI). As in neutrophil NADPH-oxidase, activation occurred by the interactions with the soluble regulatory subunits suggesting comparable protein-protein contact patterns. We focus on the stability and function of the protein during solubilisation and reconstitution into liposomes. By comparing oxidase activities in different membrane types, we confirm that the lipid-protein environment plays a key role in the protein function.     

The GABAA receptor is an FMRP target with therapeutic potential in fragile X syndrome

Previous research indicates that the GABA_Aergic system is involved in the pathophysiology of the fragile X syndrome, a frequent form of inherited intellectual disability and associated with autism spectrum disorder. However, the molecular mechanism underlying GABA_Aergic deficits has remained largely unknown. Here, we demonstrate reduced mRNA expression of GABA_A receptor subunits in the cortex and cerebellum of young Fmr1 knockout mice. In addition, we show that the previously reported underexpression of specific subunits of the GABA_A receptor can be corrected in YAC transgenic rescue mice, containing the full-length human FMR1 gene in an Fmr1 knockout background. Moreover, we demonstrate that FMRP directly binds several GABA_A receptor mRNAs. Finally, positive allosteric modulation of GABA_A receptors with the neurosteroid ganaxolone can modulate specific behaviors in Fmr1 knockout mice, emphasizing the therapeutic potential of the receptor.     

Formation of coordination polymer and molecular complex of 4,4′-bipyridyl-N,N′-dioxide of manganese and zinc

A 1D-coordination polymer [{Mn₃(C₆H₅COO)₆(BPNO)₂(MeOH)₂}(MeOH)₂]_n (1) having benzoate as the anionic ligand and 4,4′-bipyridyl-N,N′-dioxide (BPNO) as bridging ligand is synthesized by reacting benzoic acid with manganese(II) acetate tetrahydrate followed by reaction with 4,4′-bipyridyl-N N′-dioxide. The bridging bidentate BPNO ligands in this coordination polymer along with the benzoate bridges hold the repeated units. The chain like structure in one dimension by benzoate bridges are connected to each other through the μ³-η²:η¹ bridges of BPNO ligands. This coordination polymer can be transformed to a molecular complex [Mn(H₂O)₆](C₆H₅COO)_2.4BPNO (2). In this complex the BPNO remains outside the coordination sphere but they are hydrogen bonded to water molecules to form self assembled structure. The reaction of 3,5-pyrazoledicarboxylic acid (L₁H2) and BPNO with manganese(II) acetate or zinc(II) acetate led to molecular complexes with composition [M₂(L₁)₂(H₂O)₆].BPNO·xH₂O {where M = Mn(II) (3), Zn(II)(4)}. These molecular complexes of BPNO are characterised by X-ray crystallography. The complexes 3-4 are binuclear carboxylate complexes having M₂O₂ core formed from carboxylate ligands with two metal ions.     

Off-target effect of the Epac agonist 8-pCPT-2′-O-Me-cAMP on P2Y12 receptors in blood platelets

The primary target of the cAMP analogue 8-pCPT-2′-O-Me-cAMP is exchange protein directly activated by cAMP (Epac). Here we tested potential off-target effects of the Epac activator on blood platelet activation signalling. We found that the Epac analogue 8-pCPT-2′-O-Me-cAMP inhibits agonist-induced-GPCR-stimulated, but not collagen-stimulated, P-selectin surface expression on Epac1 deficient platelets. In human platelets, 8-pCPT-2′-O-Me-cAMP inhibited P-selectin expression elicited by the PKC activator PMA. This effect was abolished in the presence of the extracellular ADP scavenger system CP/CPK. In silico modelling of 8-pCPT-2′O-Me-cAMP binding into the purinergic platelet receptor P2Y₁₂ revealed that the analogue docks similar to the P2Y₁₂ antagonist 2MeSAMP. The 8-pCPT-2′-O-Me-cAMP analogue per se, did not provoke Rap 1 (Rap 1-GTP) activation or phosphorylation on the vasodilator-stimulated phosphoprotein (VASP) at Ser-157. In addition, the protein kinase A (PKA) antagonists Rp-cAMPS and Rp-8-Br-cAMPS failed to block the inhibitory effect of 8-pCPT-2′-O-Me-cAMP on thrombin- and TRAP-induced Rap 1 activation, thus suggesting that PKA is not involved. We conclude that the 8-pCPT-2′-O-Me-cAMP analogue is able to inhibit agonist-induced-GPCR-stimulated P-selectin independent from Epac1; the off-target effect of the analogue appears to be mediated by antagonistic P2Y₁₂ receptor binding. This has implications when using cAMP analogues on specialised system involving such receptors. We found, however that the Epac agonist 8-Br-2′-O-Me-cAMP did not affect platelet activation at similar concentrations.     

Subunit Composition Determines the Single Channel Kinetics of the Epithelial Sodium Channel

We have further characterized at the single channel level the properties of epithelial sodium channels formed by coexpression of α with either wild-type β or γ subunits and α with carboxy-terminal truncated β (β_T) or γ (γ_T) subunits in Xenopus laevis oocytes. αβ and αβ_T channels (9.6 and 8.7 pS, respectively, with 150 mM Li⁺) were found to be constitutively open. Only upon inclusion of 1 μM amiloride in the pipette solution could channel activity be resolved; both channel types had short open and closed times. Mean channel open probability (P _o) for αβ was 0.54 and for αβ_T was 0.50. In comparison, αγ and αγ_T channels exhibited different kinetics: αγ channels (6.7 pS in Li⁺) had either long open times with short closings, resulting in a high P _o (0.78), or short openings with long closed times, resulting in a low P _o (0.16). The mean P _o for all αγ channels was 0.48. αγ_T (6.6 pS in Li⁺) behaved as a single population of channels with distinct kinetics: mean open time of 1.2 s and closed time of 0.4 s, with a mean P _o of 0.6, similar to that of αγ. Inclusion of 0.1 μM amiloride in the pipette solution reduced the mean open time of αγ_T to 151 ms without significantly altering the closed time. We also examined the kinetics of amiloride block of αβ, αβ_T (1 μM amiloride), and αγ_T (0.1 μM amiloride) channels. αβ and αβ_T had similar blocking and unblocking rate constants, whereas the unblocking rate constant for αγ_T was 10-fold slower than αβ_T. Our results indicate that subunit composition of ENaC is a main determinant of P _o. In addition, channel kinetics and P _o are not altered by carboxy-terminal deletion in the β subunit, whereas a similar deletion in the γ subunit affects channel kinetics but not P _o.