Viability of and plasmid retention in frozen recombinant Escherichia coli over time: a ten-year prospective study

The long-term viability and plasmid retention of recombinant Escherichia coli strains were investigated by real-time testing of master cell banks (MCBs) stored at the Roche Molecular Systems Culture Collection (RMSCC). MCBs at the RMSCC were cryogenically frozen and stored at -80 degrees C for long-term preservation. At regular intervals during a period of 5 to more than 10 years, representative cryovials of each MCB were tested for viability and plasmid retention. Plasmid retention and viability for all 30 MCBs were stable over time. Twenty-seven MCBs maintained high levels of plasmid retention (at or near 100%), while three MCBs showed lower plasmid retention rates (ranging from 13.9 to 96.5%) that were consistent over time. New MCBs with high plasmid retention were created from two of the MCBs with lower plasmid retention by selective pressure with high levels of antibiotics. These new MCBs have shown stable viability and high plasmid retention over the first 5 months of storage. In conclusion, this study shows that properly selected, frozen and stored MCBs retain viability and maintain plasmid retention over time. Moreover, it is possible to recover cultures with high plasmid retention from MCBs with low plasmid retention by selecting clones grown in the presence of high levels of antibiotics.     

Long-term effects of cryopreservation on clinically prepared hematopoietic progenitor cell products

Background aimsThe question of how long hematopoietic progenitor cells (HPCs) destined for clinical applications withstand long-term cryopreservation remains unanswered. To increase our basic understanding about the stability of HPC products over time, this study focused on characterizing long-term effects of cryopreservation on clinically prepared HPC products.MethodsCryovials (n = 233) frozen for an average of 6.3 ± 14.2 years (range, 0.003–14.6 years) from HPC products (n = 170) representing 75 individual patients were thawed and evaluated for total nucleated cells (TNCs), cell viability, viable CD34+ (vCD34+) cells and colony-forming cells (CFCs). TNCs were determined by use of an automated cell counter, and cell viability was measured with the use of trypan blue exclusion. Viable CD34 analysis was performed by means of flow cytometry and function by a CFC assay.ResultsSignificant losses in TNCs, cell viability, vCD34+ cells and CFC occurred on cryopreservation. However, once frozen, viable TNCs, vCD34+ cells and CFC recoveries did not significantly change over time. The only parameter demonstrating a change over time was cell viability, which decreased as the length of time that an HPC product was stored frozen increased. A significant negative correlation (correlation coefficient = −0.165) was determined between pre-freeze percent granulocyte content and post-thaw percent viability (n = 170; P = 0.032). However, a significant positive correlation was observed between percent viability at thaw and pre-freeze lymphocyte concentration.ConclusionsOnce frozen, HPC products were stable for up to 14.6 years at <−150°C. Post-thaw viability was found to correlate negatively with pre-freeze granulocyte content and positively with pre-freeze lymphocyte content.     

Effect of storage regime on the stability of DNA used as a calibration standard for real-time polymerase chain reaction

This article looks at storage factors influencing the stability of potential DNA calibration standards for use in quantitative polymerase chain reaction (PCR). Target sequences from the bacteria Campylobacter jejuni were cloned into a plasmid vector. Samples of these potential calibration standards were stored at +4, −20, and −80 °C as aqueous and lyophilized samples and were prepared as both single-use aliquots and multiple-use preparations. Results showed that the samples stored as single-use aqueous solutions at +4 °C and lyophilized samples stored at +4 and −20 °C were the most stable. Samples stored as frozen aqueous solutions at −20 °C were the least stable.     

Effects of Long-Term Storage on Plasmid Stability in Bacillus anthracis

The plasmid profiles of 619 cultures of Bacillus anthracis which had been isolated and stored between 1954 and 1989 were analyzed using the Laboratory Response Network real-time PCR assay targeting a chromosomal marker and both virulence plasmids (pXO1 and pXO2). The cultures were stored at ambient temperature on tryptic soy agar slants overlaid with mineral oil. When data were stratified by decade, there was a decreasing linear trend in the proportion of strains containing both plasmids with increased storage time (P < 0.001). There was no significant difference in the proportion of strains containing only pXO1 or strains containing only pXO2 (P = 0.25), but there was a statistical interdependence between the two plasmids (P = 0.004). Loss of viability of B. anthracis cultures stored on agar slants is also discussed.     

Characterization of a Large, Stable, High-Copy-Number Streptomyces Plasmid That Requires Stability and Transfer Functions for Heterologous Polyketide Overproduction

A major limitation to improving small-molecule pharmaceutical production in streptomycetes is the inability of high-copy-number plasmids to tolerate large biosynthetic gene cluster inserts. A recent finding has overcome this barrier. In 2003, Hu et al. discovered a stable, high-copy-number, 81-kb plasmid that significantly elevated production of the polyketide precursor to the antibiotic erythromycin in a heterologous Streptomyces host (J. Ind. Microbiol. Biotechnol. 30:516-522, 2003). Here, we have identified mechanisms by which this SCP2*-derived plasmid achieves increased levels of metabolite production and examined how the 45-bp deletion mutation in the plasmid replication origin increased plasmid copy number. A plasmid intramycelial transfer gene, spd, and a partition gene, parAB, enhance metabolite production by increasing the stable inheritance of large plasmids containing biosynthetic genes. Additionally, high product titers required both activator (actII-ORF4) and biosynthetic genes (eryA) at high copy numbers. DNA gel shift experiments revealed that the 45-bp deletion abolished replication protein (RepI) binding to a plasmid site which, in part, supports an iteron model for plasmid replication and copy number control. Using the new information, we constructed a large high-copy-number plasmid capable of overproducing the polyketide 6-deoxyerythronolide B. However, this plasmid was unstable over multiple culture generations, suggesting that other SCP2* genes may be required for long-term, stable plasmid inheritance.     

High-Efficiency Carbohydrate Fermentation to Ethanol at Temperatures above 40°C by Kluyveromyces marxianus var. marxianus Isolated from Sugar Mills

A number of yeast strains, isolated from sugar cane mills and identified as strains of Kluyveromyces marxianus var. marxianus, were examined for their ability to ferment glucose and cane syrup to ethanol at high temperatures. Several strains were capable of rapid fermentation at temperatures up to 47°C. At 43°C, >6% (wt/vol) ethanol was produced after 12 to 14 h of fermentation, concurrent with retention of high cell viability (>80%). Although the type strain (CBS 712) of K. marxianus var. marxianus produced up to 6% (wt/vol) ethanol at 43°C, cell viability was low, 30 to 50%, and the fermentation time was 24 to 30 h. On the basis of currently available strains, we suggest that it may be possible by genetic engineering to construct yeasts capable of fermenting carbohydrates at temperatures close to 50°C to produce 10 to 15% (wt/vol) ethanol in 12 to 18 h with retention of cell viability.     

Viability of respiratory pathogens cultured from nasopharyngeal swabs stored for up to 12 years at -70°C in skim milk tryptone glucose glycerol broth

Nasopharyngeal carriage studies are needed to monitor changes in important bacterial pathogens in response to vaccination and antibiotics. The ability to store original specimens frozen in skim milk tryptone glucose glycerol broth (STGGB) allows additional studies to be conducted without the need for further expensive field collection. Although sub-cultured isolates remain viable in this medium for many years, limited data are available to indicate viability of relatively low numbers of organisms present in nasopharyngeal specimens stored frozen over long periods of time. We conducted several studies whereby swabs stored in STGGB at − 70 °C for up to 12 years were thawed and aliquots cultured. Recovery of Streptococcus pneumoniae (72% positive from 269 swabs), Haemophilus influenzae (62% from 214) and Moraxella catarrhalis (81% from 162) was not significantly different from the original cultures: 69% (Risk Difference [RD] 3.0, 95% Confidence Interval [CI] − 4.7, 10.7), 66% (RD − 4.7, 95% CI − 13.8, 4.4) and 78% (RD 3.1, 95% CI − 5.7, 11.9) positive respectively. There was no trend in recovery from swabs stored for increasing lengths of time. We conclude that studies which rely on the viability of these respiratory pathogens can be conducted using original swabs stored at − 70 °C for at least 12 years.     

Effect of freezing and cold storage on phospholipids in developing soybean cotyledons

Freezing of plant tissue adversely affects lipid composition. Immature soybean cotyledons (Glycine max L. Merr.) var. “Harosoy 63” were frozen with liquid N₂, dry ice, or stored in a freezer (−20 C) before lipid extraction. The effects of freezing temperature, thawing rate, and cold storage on the lipid composition of frozen tissue revealed significantly higher levels of phosphatidic acid, and diminished levels of phosphatidylcholine, phosphatidylethanolamine, and N-acylphosphatidylethanolamine from the control. Regardless of freezing temperature, phosphatidic acid levels increased from 4.7 mole% to nearly 50 mole% of the total phospholipid when frozen tissues were stored 10 days at −20 C. During the same period, N-acylphosphatidylethanolamine decreased from 54.1 mole% to 6.6 mole% phospholipid. At least 8 mole% of the phosphatidic acid increase occurred during slow thawing of the frozen tissues. In autoclaved samples, phosphatidic acid, phosphatidylcholine, phosphatidylethanolamine, and N-acylphosphatidylethanolamine levels were not different from the control. Labeling of the lipid-glycerol with ³H, and fatty acids with ¹⁴C, demonstrated the degradation product was primarily phosphatidic acid. Apparently enzymic destruction of the phospholipids occurred during freezing, cold storage, and thawing.     

Plasmid Introduction in Metal-Stressed, Subsurface-Derived Microcosms: Plasmid Fate and Community Response

The nonconjugal IncQ plasmids pMOL187 and pMOL222, which contain the metal resistance-encoding genes czc and ncc, were introduced by using Escherichia coli as a transitory delivery strain into microcosms containing subsurface-derived parent materials. The microcosms were semicontinuously dosed with an artificial groundwater to set a low-carbon flux and a target metal stress (0, 10, 100, and 1,000 μM CdCl₂), permitting long-term community monitoring. The broad-host-range IncPα plasmid RP4 was also transitorily introduced into a subset of microcosms. No novel community phenotype was detected after plasmid delivery, due to the high background resistances to Cd and Ni. At fixed Cd doses, however, small but consistent increases in Cd^r or Ni^r density were measured due to the introduction of a single pMOL plasmid, and this effect was enhanced by the joint introduction of RP4; the effects were most significant at the highest Cd doses. The pMOL plasmids introduced could, however, be monitored via czc- and ncc-targeted infinite-dilution PCR (ID-PCR) methods, because these genes were absent from the indigenous community: long-term presence of czc (after 14 or 27 weeks) was contingent on the joint introduction of RP4, although RP4 cointroduction was not yet required to ensure retention of ncc after 8 weeks. Plasmids isolated from Ni^r transconjugants further confirmed the presence and retention of a pMOL222-sized plasmid. ID-PCR targeting the RP4-specific trafA gene revealed retention of RP4 for at least 8 weeks. Our findings confirm plasmid transfer and long-term retention in low-carbon-flux, metal-stressed subsurface communities but indicate that the subsurface community examined has limited mobilization potential for the IncQ plasmids employed.     

Fatty acids, membrane permeability, and sugars of stored potato tubers

The relationships of potato (Solanum tuberosum L.) tuber membrane permeability and membrane lipid composition to sugar accumulation were examined. Tubers from four potato cultivars were stored for 40 weeks at 3°C and 9°C. Rates of tuber membrane electrolyte leakage, total fatty acid composition, free fatty acid composition, and sugar content were measured throughout the storage period. Storage of tubers at 3°C caused dramatic increases in total fatty acid unsaturation, membrane permeability, and sugar content compared to tubers stored at 9°C. Cultivars with higher levels of fatty acid unsaturation had lower rates of membrane electrolyte leakage and lower sugar contents. We propose that high initial levels or high induced levels of membrane lipid unsaturation mitigate increases in tuber membrane permeability during storage, thus positively influencing the processing quality of stored potato tubers.     

Cryopreservation of Steinernema carpocapsae and Heterorhabditis bacteriophora

A method for the cryopreservation of third-stage infective juveniles (IJ) of Steinernema carpocapsae and Heterorhabiditis bacteriophora was developed. Cryoprotection was achieved by incubating the nematodes in 22% glycerol (S. carpocapsae) or 14% glycerol (H. bacteriophora) for 24 hours, followed by 70% methanol at 0 C for 10 minutes. The viability of S. carpocapsae frozen in liquid nitrogen as 20 μl volumes spread over cover slip glass was > 80%. Survival of H. bacteriophora frozen on glass varied from 10 to 60% but was improved to > 80% by replacing the glass with filter paper. Cryopreservation and storage of 1-ml aliqots of S. carpocapsae IJ resulted in > 50% survival after 8 months; pathogenicity was retained and normal in vitro development took place. Trehalose and glycerol levels increased and glycogen levels decreased during incubation of S. carpocapsae IJ in glycerol. Normal levels of trehalose, glycerol and glycogen were restored during post freezing rehydration.     

Viability of fastidious Phytophthora following different cryopreservation treatments

Living stock cultures with constant phenotypes and genotypes are required for a wide range of research and industrial applications; however, long-term, stable preservation of fastidious Phytophthora strains has been challenging. In this study, we systematically evaluated different cryopreservation treatments to identify and clarify freezing, thawing, and other conditions appropriate for long-term maintenance. Optimal preservation conditions were largely strain-specific, with robust strains remaining fully viable and the fastidious yielding lower recovery under all test conditions. Nevertheless, several procedures were shown to be generally applicable for effective cryopreservation of most Phytophthora organisms. Fastidious strains retained higher viability following the −1 °C min⁻¹ freezing protocol (Mr Frosty's) than either of two widely used programmed freezing procedures. Revival was higher when frozen mycelium plugs were thawed at 37 °C for 2 min or 25 °C for 5 min, while lower viability was apparent for fastidious strains thawed at 55 °C for 1.5 min. Among 15 cryoprotective solutions assessed, 5 % dimethyl sulfoxide produced the highest viability for all fastidious strains. The effect of prefreeze and postfreeze treatments on revival was mild, if any, and strain-dependent. This study has generated reliable, practical, long-term preservation solutions applicable to a majority of Phytophthora species. It also has revealed a need for in-depth physiological and morphological investigations to further enhance the preservation methods for fastidious strains.     

Proceedings: Preservation of bacteria by freezing at moderately low temperatures

In order to get some basic information for the development of a long-term preservation method by freezing at moderately low temperatures, the viability of 259 strains belonging to 32 genera and 135 species was measured. Cells were suspended in 10% glycerol and stored at ?53 °C for 16 months. About 93%, 88%, and 74% of aerobic bacteria gave viable cell counts higher than 10⁵/ml, 10⁶/ml, and 10⁷/ml, respectively. About 10% of gram-positives and 3% of gram-negatives gave viable cell counts lower than 10⁵/ml. There seemed to be some species—and genus—specificity with respect to viability after frozen storage and liquid paraffin-seal storage. Strains of coryneform bacteria, genera of the family Enterobacteriaceae, and the genus Pseudomonas were generally resistant. Pseudomonas putrefaciens proved to be specifically sensitive. Lactic acid bacteria were subject to sublethal injury, requiring special recovery media. Psychrophilic bacteria were very susceptible to frozen storage. All the tested strains of acetic acid bacteria survived frozen storage well both in 10% glycerol and in 10% honey at ?28 °C for 4.5 years. Honey proved to be a better adjuvant for frozen storage than glycerol. It was suggested from the results that for many kinds of bacteria, long-term preservation by freezing at moderately low temperatures might be possible when appropriate procedures are applied.     

Further Comparison of Temperature Effects on Growth and Survival of Clostridium perfringens Type A Isolates Carrying a Chromosomal or Plasmid-Borne Enterotoxin Gene

Clostridium perfringens type A isolates can carry the enterotoxin gene (cpe) on either their chromosome or a plasmid, but food poisoning isolates usually have a chromosomal cpe gene. This linkage between chromosomal cpe isolates and food poisoning has previously been attributed, at least in part, to better high-temperature survival of chromosomal cpe isolates than of plasmid cpe isolates. In the current study we assessed whether vegetative cells and spores of chromosomal cpe isolates also survive better than vegetative cells and spores of plasmid cpe isolates survive when the vegetative cells and spores are subjected to low temperatures. Vegetative cells of chromosomal cpe isolates exhibited about eightfold-higher decimal reduction values (D values) at 4°C and threefold-higher D values at −20°C than vegetative cells of plasmid cpe isolates exhibited. After 6 months of incubation at 4°C and −20°C, the average log reductions in viability for spores of plasmid cpe isolates were about fourfold and about threefold greater, respectively, than the average log reductions in viability for spores from chromosomal cpe isolates. C. perfringens type A isolates carrying a chromosomal cpe gene also grew significantly faster than plasmid cpe isolates grew at 25°C, 37°C, or 43°C. In addition, chromosomal cpe isolates grew at higher maximum and lower minimum temperatures than plasmid cpe isolates grew. Collectively, these results suggest that chromosomal cpe isolates are commonly involved in food poisoning because of their greater resistance to low (as well as high) temperatures for both survival and growth. They also indicate the importance of proper low-temperature storage conditions, as well as heating, for prevention of C. perfringens type A food poisoning.     

Long-Term Storage of Bacteriophages of Lactic Streptococci

Four phage strains representing phages of Streptococcus lactis, S. cremoris, and S. diacetilactis were selected for the observation of the effect of cold storage on their viability. Phages were stored at 4 C and at -18 C, or were frozen at approximately -70 C and stored at -18 C. They were found to display a high degree of stability with these storage methods. The same phage strains showed good stability to storage at room temperature for 3 weeks after thawing and also to alternate freezing and thawing eight times. Three series consisting of from 23 to 31 lactic streptococcal phage preparations were observed over periods extending up to 6 years, and with only a few exceptions were found to store satisfactorily at -18 C after quick freezing. Although the same phage preparations stored at 4 C were generally somewhat less stable, many were stable when stored by both methods.     

Sphagnum Mosses - Masters of Efficient N-Uptake while Avoiding Intoxication

Peat forming Sphagnum mosses are able to prevent the dominance of vascular plants under ombrotrophic conditions by efficiently scavenging atmospherically deposited nitrogen (N). N-uptake kinetics of these mosses are therefore expected to play a key role in differential N availability, plant competition, and carbon sequestration in Sphagnum peatlands. The interacting effects of rain N concentration and exposure time on moss N-uptake rates are, however, poorly understood.We investigated the effects of N-concentration (1, 5, 10, 50, 100, 500 µM), N-form (¹⁵N - ammonium or nitrate) and exposure time (0.5, 2, 72 h) on uptake kinetics for Sphagnum magellanicum from a pristine bog in Patagonia (Argentina) and from a Dutch bog exposed to decades of N-pollution.Uptake rates for ammonium were higher than for nitrate, and N-binding at adsorption sites was negligible. During the first 0.5 h, N-uptake followed saturation kinetics revealing a high affinity (K_m 3.5–6.5 µM). Ammonium was taken up 8 times faster than nitrate, whereas over 72 hours this was only 2 times. Uptake rates decreased drastically with increasing exposure times, which implies that many short-term N-uptake experiments in literature may well have overestimated long-term uptake rates and ecosystem retention. Sphagnum from the polluted site (i.e. long-term N exposure) showed lower uptake rates than mosses from the pristine site, indicating an adaptive response. Sphagnum therefore appears to be highly efficient in using short N pulses (e.g. rainfall in pristine areas). This strategy has important ecological and evolutionary implications: at high N input rates, the risk of N-toxicity seems to be reduced by lower uptake rates of Sphagnum, at the expense of its long-term filter capacity and related competitive advantage over vascular plants. As shown by our conceptual model, interacting effects of N-deposition and climate change (changes in rainfall) will seriously alter the functioning of Sphagnum peatlands.     

Infertility and fecundity loss of Wolbachia-infected Aedes aegypti hatched from quiescent eggs is expected to alter invasion dynamics

The endosymbiotic bacterium Wolbachia shows viral blocking in its mosquito host, leading to its use in arboviral disease control. Releases with Wolbachia strains wMel and wAlbB infecting Aedes aegypti have taken place in several countries. Mosquito egg survival is a key factor influencing population persistence and this trait is also important when eggs are stored prior to releases. We therefore tested the viability of mosquitoes derived from Wolbachia wMel and wAlbB-infected as well as uninfected eggs after long-term storage under diurnal temperature cycles of 11–19°C and 22–30°C. Eggs stored at 11–19°C had higher hatch proportions than those stored at 22–30°C. Adult Wolbachia density declined when they emerged from eggs stored for longer, which was associated with incomplete cytoplasmic incompatibility (CI) when wMel-infected males were crossed with uninfected females. Females from stored eggs at both temperatures continued to show perfect maternal transmission of Wolbachia, but storage reduced the fecundity of both wMel and wAlbB-infected females relative to uninfected mosquitoes. Furthermore, we found a very strong negative impact of the wAlbB infection on the fertility of females stored at 22–30°C, with almost 80% of females hatching after 11 weeks of storage being infertile. Our findings provide guidance for storing Wolbachia-infected A. aegypti eggs to ensure high fitness adult mosquitoes for release. Importantly, they also highlight the likely impact of egg quiescence on the population dynamics of Wolbachia-infected populations in the field, and the potential for Wolbachia to suppress mosquito populations through cumulative fitness costs across warm and dry periods, with expected effects on dengue transmission.     

Validation of a field-friendly extraction and storage method to monitor fecal steroid metabolites in wild orangutans

Measuring hormone metabolites from feces is the most often used method to assess hormonal status in wildlife. Although immediate freezing of fecal samples collected in the field is the best method to minimize the risk of degradation of hormones over time, this is often not possible in remote field sites. Therefore, alternative storage and preservation methods for fecal samples are required in these conditions. We conducted an experiment to investigate if fecal glucocorticoid (FGCM) and progesterone metabolite (pregnanediol-3-glucuronide; PdG) levels measured from samples that were extracted with a simple, field-friendly methodology correlate with those generated from frozen samples. We also evaluated whether storing fecal samples in alcohol is a suitable alternative to preserve FGCM and PdG concentrations long-term (i.e. over a 9-month period) at locations where fecal extraction is not feasible. Finally, we tested if the hormone concentrations in unpreserved fecal samples of orangutans change over 14 h when stored at ambient conditions, representing the maximum duration between sample collection and return to the camp. FGCM and PdG levels measured from samples that were extracted with the field-friendly method showed strong correlations with those generated from frozen samples, and mean levels did not differ significantly between these methods. FGCM concentrations showed no significant change compared to control samples when fecal samples were stored for up to 6 months in alcohol at ambient temperature and PdG concentrations even remained stable for up to 9 months of storage. FGCM concentrations of fecal samples kept at ambient temperature for up to 14 h post-defecation did not significantly differ compared to control samples frozen immediately after collection. These results provide the basis for the successful monitoring of the physiological status of orangutans living in remote natural settings, like those included in the Indonesian reintroduction programs.     

Supercritical CO2 interpolymer complex encapsulation improves heat stability of probiotic bifidobacteria

The probiotic industry faces the challenge of retention of probiotic culture viability as numbers of these cells within their products inevitably decrease over time. In order to retain probiotic viability levels above the therapeutic minimum over the duration of the product’s shelf life, various methods have been employed, among which encapsulation has received much interest. In line with exploitation of encapsulation for protection of probiotics against adverse conditions, we have previously encapsulated bifidobacteria in poly-(vinylpyrrolidone)-poly-(vinylacetate-co-crotonic acid) (PVP:PVAc-CA) interpolymer complex microparticles under supercritical conditions. The microparticles produced had suitable characteristics for food applications and also protected the bacteria in simulated gastrointestinal fluids. The current study reports on accelerated shelf life studies of PVP:PVAc-CA encapsulated Bifidobacterium lactis Bb12 and Bifidobacterium longum Bb46. Samples were stored as free powders in glass vials at 30 °C for 12 weeks and then analysed for viable counts and water activity levels weekly or fortnightly. Water activities of the samples were within the range of 0.25–0.43, with an average a _w  = 0.34, throughout the storage period. PVP:PVAc-CA interpolymer complex encapsulation retained viable levels above the recommended minimum for 10 and 12 weeks, for B. longum Bb46 and B. lactis Bb12, respectively, thereby extending their shelf lives under high storage temperature by between 4 and 7 weeks. These results reveal the possibility for manufacture of encapsulated probiotic powders with increased stability at ambient temperatures. This would potentially allow the supply of a stable probiotic formulation to impoverished communities without proper storage facilities recommended for most of the currently available commercial probiotic products.     

A Simple and Widely Applicable Method for Preparing Homogeneous and Stable Quality Control Samples in Water Microbiology

Test strains suspended in skim milk, quickly frozen in dry ice-ethanol, and stored at - 70°C can be used as quality control samples that are immediately available by quickly thawing at 37°C. The samples remain homogeneous and stable for at least 1 year, except for Aeromonas hydrophila, which decreases 20 to 30% in 1 year.