Establishment of segment polarity in the ectoderm of the leech Helobdella

The segmented ectoderm and mesoderm of the leech arise via a stereotyped cell lineage from embryonic stem cells called teloblasts. Each teloblast gives rise to a column of primary blast cell daughters, and the blast cells generate descendant clones that serve as the segmental repeats of their particular teloblast lineage. We have examined the mechanism by which the leech primary blast cell clones acquire segment polarity - i.e. a fixed sequence of positional values ordered along the anteroposterior axis of the segmental repeat. In the O and P teloblast lineages, the earliest divisions of the primary blast cell segregate anterior and posterior cell fates along the anteroposterior axis. Using a laser microbeam, we ablated single cells from both o and p blast cell clones at stages when the clone was two to four cells in length. The developmental fate of the remaining cells was characterized with rhodamine-dextran lineage tracer. Twelve different progeny cells were ablated, and in every case the ablation eliminated the normal descendants of the ablated cell while having little or no detectable effect on the developmental fate of the remaining cells. This included experiments in which we specifically ablated those blast cell progeny that are known to express the engrailed gene, or their lineal precursors. These findings confirm and extend a previous study by showing that the establishment of segment polarity in the leech ectoderm is largely independent of cell interactions conveyed along the anteroposterior axis. Both intercellular signaling and engrailed expression play an important role in the segment polarity specification of the Drosophila embryo, and our findings suggest that there may be little or no conservation of this developmental mechanism between those two organisms.     

Segmental diversification of an identified leech neuron correlates with the segmental domain in which it expresses lox2, a member of the hox gene family

The cellular colocalization of LOX2 protein and small cardioactive peptide (SCP)-like immunoreactivity was studied in the nerve cord of the glossiphoniid leech Helobdella triserialis. Of the six neurons that express SCP in the midbody segments 7 to 17, only one, the MPS neuron, expresses LOX2 protein. The medial paired SCP (MPS) neurons are segmentally repeated and can be divided into three contiguous segmental domains according to cell body size and the timing and level of SCP expression. MPS neurons located in the anterior and middle segmental domains express LOX2 protein. In the middle domain, large MPS neurons begin to accumulate SCP shortly after the end of embryonic development, whereas in the anterior domain the MPS neurons are smaller and begin to express SCP at a later stage. In the posterior domain the MPS neurons exhibit a third phenotype—they have large cell bodies, express low levels of SCP starting from the midjuvenile stage, and do not show detectable LOX2 expression. Lineage tracer injections showed that the MPS neurons arise from a stereotyped cell lineage and are descended from the O teloblast stem cell. In midbody ganglia 2 to 6 and 18 to 21, there are lineally homologous neurons that do not express either LOX2 protein or SCP. Thus, the boundaries of LOX2 expression coincide precisely with two of the segmental boundaries of MPS differentiation, suggesting that expression of Lox2 at the level of this single identified neuron governs some, but not all, aspects of the neuron's segmental diversification. © 1996 John Wiley & Sons, Inc.     

Characterization of Notch-class gene expression in segmentation stem cells and segment founder cells in Helobdella robusta (Lophotrochozoa; Annelida; Clitellata; Hirudinida; Glossiphoniidae)

To understand the evolution of segmentation, we must compare segmentation in all three major groups of eusegmented animals: vertebrates, arthropods, and annelids. The leech Helobdella robusta is an experimentally tractable annelid representative, which makes segments in anteroposterior progression from a posterior growth zone consisting of 10 identified stem cells. In vertebrates and some arthropods, Notch signaling is required for normal segmentation and functions via regulation of hes-class genes. We have previously characterized the expression of an hes-class gene (Hro-hes) during segmentation in Helobdella, and here, we characterize the expression of an H. robusta notch homolog (Hro-notch) during this process. We find that Hro-notch is transcribed in the segmental founder cells (blast cells) and their stem-cell precursors (teloblasts), as well as in other nonsegmental tissues. The mesodermal and ectodermal lineages show clear differences in the levels of Hro-notch expression. Finally, Hro-notch is shown to be inherited by newly born segmental founder cells as well as transcribed by them before their first cell division.     

Developmental origin of segmental differences in the leech ectoderm: survival and differentiation of the distal tubule cell is determined by the host segment

The body plan of the adult leech is metameric, with each hemisegmental complement of ectodermal and mesodermal tissues being produced from a set of seven serially repeated embryonic blast cells. Previous studies have shown that homologous o blast cells give rise to an almost identical complement of descendant cells in each of the 21 abdominal segments, but that one o blast cell derivative--the distalmost cell of the nephridial tubule--is only present in 15 abdominal segments in the mature leech. Here we show that all o blast cells generate a presumptive distal tubule cell and that this cell migrates to its normal position in all abdominal segments. However, in segments which normally do not contain the mesodermal portion of the nephridium, the distal tubule cell dies before undergoing its terminal morphological differentiation. To ascertain whether the fate of the distal tubule cell is determined by its lineage history or by the segmental environment into which it is born, we utilized a previously described procedure for altering the segmental register between different embryonic cell lines. This procedure allowed us to effectively transplant o blast cells into more posterior segments prior to the cell divisions which generate their descendant clones. The results indicate that the survival or death of the distal tubule cell is determined by the identity of the host segment and that a given distal tubule cell could be effectively murdered or rescued by slipping its blast cell precursor into an appropriate segment. These findings suggest that the segment-specific pattern of distal tubule cell survival is not inherent to the O cell line, but arises from interactions with surrounding tissues.     

Regional and segmental differences in the embryonic expression of a putative leech Hox gene,Lox2, by central neurons immunoreactive to FMRFamide-like neuropeptides

We performed immunofluorescence experiments using a rat polyclonal antibody on formaldehyde-fixed whole-mount embryos to characterize the expression of a putative leech Hox gene, Lox2, during embryonic development. The main goal was to determine whether the differentiation of subsets of FMRFamide-like immunoreactive (FLI) neurons coincide with the expression domain of Lox2. The earliest expression of Lox2 was detected in relatively large, prominent nuclei in the posterior region at embryonic day 4, a very early stage. Lox2 expression was also detected in subsets of central neurons (neurons located in the CNS) located in midbody ganglia 6 (M6)–M21. In addition, Lox2 was expressed by a number of segment-specific and segmentally repeated central FLI neurons. Lox2-positive FLI neurons of interest included some of those previously identified: the rostral most ventral (RMV) neurons, the circular ventral (CV) neurons, and cell 261. The paired RMVs, which are located in all midbody ganglia, expressed Lox2 only in M7–M19. The CV neurons, specialized motor neurons that innervate the circular ventral muscles of the body wall, expressed Lox2 in M7–M19. The putative cell 261 expressed Lox2 in M7–M12, where Lox1 is also expressed. FMRFamide staining in putative segmental homologs of cell 261 was not detected in other segmental ganglia. Our results suggest a role for Lox2 in very early embryonic development (before the formation of the CNS), and in the differentiation of segmentally repeated and region-specific FLI neurons.     

Segmentation of the central nervous system in leech

Central nervous system (CNS) in leech comprises segmentally iterated progeny derived from five embryonic lineages (M, N, O, P and Q). Segmentation of the leech CNS is characterized by the formation of a series of transverse fissures that subdivide initially continuous columns of segmental founder cells in the N lineage into distinct ganglionic primordia. We have examined the relationship between the N lineage cells that separate to form the fissures and lateral ectodermal and mesodermal derivatives by differentially labeling cells with intracellular lineage tracers and antibodies. Although subsets of both lateral ectoderm and muscle fibers contact N lineage cells at or near the time of fissure formation, ablation experiments suggest that these contacts are not required for initiating fissure formation. It appears, therefore, that this aspect of segmentation occurs autonomously within the N lineage. To support this idea, we present evidence that fundamental differences exist between alternating ganglionic precursor cells (nf and ns primary blast cells) within the N lineage. Specifically, ablation of an nf primary blast cell sometimes resulted in the fusion of ipsilateral hemi-ganglia, while ablation of an ns primary blast cell often caused a 'slippage' of blast cells posterior to the lesion. Also, differences in cell behavior were observed in biochemically arrested nf and ns primary blast cells. Collectively, these results lead to a model of segmentation in the leech CNS that is based upon differences in cell adhesion and/or cell motility between the alternating nf and ns primary blast cells. We note that the segmentation processes described here occur well prior to the expression of the leech engrailed-class gene in the N lineage.     

Grandparental stem cells in leech segmentation: Differences in CDC42 expression are correlated with an alternating pattern of blast cell fates

Embryonic segmentation in clitellate annelids (oligochaetes and leeches) is a cell lineage-driven process. Embryos of these worms generate a posterior growth zone consisting of 5 bilateral pairs of identified segmentation stem cells (teloblasts), each of which produces a column of segmental founder cells (blast cells). Each blast cell generates a lineage-specific clone via a stereotyped sequence of cell divisions, which are typically unequal both in terms of the relative size of the sister cells and in the progeny to which they give rise. In two of the five teloblast lineages, including the ventralmost, primary neurogenic (N) lineage, the blast cells adopt two different fates, designated nf and ns, in exact alternation within the blast cell column; this is termed a grandparental stem cell lineage. To lay groundwork for investigating unequal divisions in the leech Helobdella, we have surveyed the Helobdella robusta genome for genes encoding orthologs of the Rho family GTPases, including the rho, rac and cdc42 sub-families, which are known to be involved in multiple processes involving cell polarization in other systems. We find that, in contrast to most other known systems the Helobdella genome contains two cdc42 orthologs, one of which is expressed at higher levels in the ns blast cells than in nf blast cells. We also demonstrate that the asymmetric divisions of the primary nf and ns blast cells are regulated by the polarized distribution of the activated form of the Cdc42 protein, rather than by the overall level of expression. Our results provide the first molecular insights into the mechanisms of the grandparental stem cell lineages, a novel, yet evolutionarily ancient stem cell division pattern. Our results also provide an example in which asymmetries in the distribution of Cdc42 activity, rather than in the overall levels of Cdc42 protein, are important regulating unequal divisions in animal cells.     

The production and elimination of supernumerary blast cells in the leech embryo

 Different species of leech vary greatly in body size but all have 32 body segments. It is unclear how the development of this precise number of segments is regulated, although it is known that the teloblasts of the early leech embryo initially produce more than the required numbers of segment founder cells (blast cells). We used fluorescent dextrans to show that the M teloblast of the Helobdella robusta embryo produces a variable number of additional (supernumerary) cells. These cells fail to enter the germinal band (which contains cells of all lineages and gives rise to the adult leech), but detach from its posterior end and disappear. Our observations suggest that some suffer an increase in membrane permeability while others fuse with the M teloblasts, but that they do not undergo apoptosis. The supernumerary cells of different lineages detach from the germinal band at different times, suggesting that detachment is not triggered by a global signal acting simultaneously on all lineages. We tested the hypothesis that the elimination of the supernumerary m blast cells results from a requirement of m blast cells for close interactions with cells of the other lineages for their survival, a condition that would not be achieved by the last-born m blast cells that fail to enter the germinal band. We cultured isolated M teloblasts and found that they do produce blast cells that themselves divide, indicating that cells of the M lineage can survive in the absence of any interactions with cells of the other lineages. Received: 17 August 1998 / Accepted: 20 November 1998     

Conserved Anterior Boundaries of Hox Gene Expression in the Central Nervous System of the LeechHelobdella

Molecular developmental studies of fly and mouse embryos have shown that the identity of individual body segments is controlled by a suite of homeobox-containing genes called the Hox cluster. To examine the conservation of this patterning mechanism in other segmented phyla, we here describe four Hox gene homologs isolated from glossiphoniid leeches of the genusHelobdella.Based on sequence similarity and phylogenetic analysis, the leech genesLox7, Lox6, Lox20,andLox5are deemed to be orthologs of theDrosophilageneslab, Dfd, Scr,andAntp,respectively. Sequence similarities betweenLox5andAntpoutside the homeodomain and phylogenetic reconstructions suggest that the Antennapedia family of Hox genes (as defined by Bürglin, 1994) had already expanded to include at least two discreteAntpandUbx/abdAprecursors prior to the annelid/arthropod divergence.In situhybridization reveals that the fourLoxgenes described in this study are all expressed at high levels within the segmented portion of the central nervous system (CNS), with variable levels of expression in the segmental mesoderm. Little or no expression was seen in peripheral ectoderm or endoderm, or in the unsegmented head region (prostomium). EachLoxgene has a distinct anterior expression boundary within one of the four rostral segments, and the anterior-posterior (AP) order of these expression boundaries is identical to that reported for the orthologous Hox gene products in fly and mouse. This finding supports the idea that the process of AP axis differentiation is conserved among the higher metazoan phyla with respect to the regional expression of individual Hox genes along that axis. One unusual feature of leech Hox genes is the observation that some genes are only expressed during later development -- beginning at the time of terminal cell differentiation -- whereas others begin expression at a much earlier stage, and their RNA ceases to be detectable shortly after the onset of expression of the ‘late’ Hox genes. The functional significance of this temporal disparity is unknown, but it is noteworthy that only the two ‘early’ Hox genes display high levels of mesodermal expression.     

Gangliogenesis in leech: morphogenetic processes leading to segmentation in the central nervous system

 Using intracellular lineage tracers to study the main neurogenic lineage (N lineage) of the glossiphoniid leech embryo, we have characterized events leading from continuous columns of segmental founder cells (nf and ns primary blast cells) to discrete, segmentally iterated ganglia. The separation between prospective ganglia was first evident as a fissure between the posterior boundary of nf- and the anterior boundary of ns-derived progeny. We also identified the sublineages of nf-derived cells that contribute parallel stripes of cells to each segment. These stripes of cells project ventrolaterally from the dorsolateral margin of each nascent ganglion to the ventral body wall. The position and orientation of the stripes suggests that they play a role in forming the posterior segmental nerve; they are not coincident with the ganglionic boundary, and they form well after the separation of ganglionic primordia. Previous work has shown that cells in the anterior stripe express the leech engrailed-class gene. Thus, in contrast to the role of cells expressing engrailed in Drosophila, the stripes of N-derived cells expressing an engrailed-class gene in leech do not seem to play a direct role in segmentation or segment polarity. Received: 10 October 1997 / Accepted: 12 December 1997     

Pattern formation in embryos of the oligochaete annelid Tubifex: cellular basis for segmentation and specification of segmental identity

The embryonic origin of metameric segmentation was examined in the oligochaete Tubifex using lineage tracers. Segments in Tubifex embryos arise from five bilateral pairs of longitudinal coherent columns (bandlets) of primary blast cells which are generated by five bilateral pairs of embryonic stem cells called teloblasts (M, N, O, P and Q). As development proceeds, an initially linear array of blast cells in each ectodermal bandlet gradually changes its shape in a lineage-specific manner. These morphogenetic changes result in the formation of distinct cell clumps, which are separated from the bandlet to serve as segmental elements (SEs). SEs in the N and Q lineages are each comprised of clones of two consecutive primary blast cells. In contrast, in the O and P lineages, individual blast cell clones are distributed across SE boundaries; each SE is a mixture of a part of the preceding anterior clone and a part of the next posterior clone. Morphogenetic events, including segmentation, in an ectodermal bandlet proceed normally in the absence of neighboring ectodermal bandlets. Without the underlying mesoderm, separated SEs fail to space themselves at regular intervals along the anteroposterior axis. It is suggested that ectodermal segmentation in Tubifex consists of two stages; autonomous morphogenesis of each bandlet leading to generation of SEs, and the ensuing mesoderm-dependent alignment of separated SEs. In contrast, metameric segmentation in the mesoderm (M lineage) is a one-step process in that it arises from an initially simple organization (i.e. a linear series) of primary m-blast cells, which individually serve as a founder cell of each segment. The boundary between mesodermal segments is determined autonomously. The results of a set of cell ablation and transplantation experiments, using alkaline phosphatase activity as a biochemical marker for segments VII and VIII suggest that segmental identities in primary m-blast cells are determined according to the genealogical position in the M lineage and that the M teloblast possesses a developmental program through which the sequence of blast cell identities is determined.     

Segmental and Regional Differences in Neuronal Expression of the Leech Hox Genes Lox1 and Lox2 During Embryogenesis

Using double immunofluorescence experiments, we described the expression of the leech Hox genes, Lox1 and Lox2 by central neurons that stained for either serotonin or the leech-specific neuronal marker, Laz1-1. The goal is to determine whether the segmental boundaries of Lox1 and Lox2 expression in identified neurons coincide with segmental and regional differences in the differentiation of these cells. A number of neurons described here have been previously identified. The anteromedial serotonergic neurons are restricted to rostral ganglion 1 (R1) to midbody ganglion 3 (M3), but only express Lox1 in M2 and M3. The posteromedial serotonergic neurons which are situated in all segments as bilateral pairs early in development, but later become unpaired starting at M3, expressed Lox1 only in M2 and M3, and Lox2 in M8 to M21, in all paired and unpaired stages. The Retzius neurons, which stain for serotonin, express Lox2 in M7 to M21 where they exhibit different morphologies from their segmental homologs of the sex ganglia in M5 and M6. The Laz1-1 immunoreactive (Laz1-1⁺) heart accessory-like neurons express Lox1 in M4 and Lox2 in M7 to M17, but not in their segmental homologs of the heart accessory (HA) neurons located exclusively in M5 and M6. Also, Laz1-1⁺ neurons, which we named Lz3 expressed Lox1 in M4 to M8 where they are unpaired, but express Lox2 in M9 to M16 where they are bilaterally paired. Other Laz1-1 cells show more restricted and isolated Lox1 and Lox2 expression patterns. These results suggest a role of Lox1 and/or Lox2 in defining the anteroposterior boundaries of segmentally iterated neurons.     

Cell lineage and segmentation in the leech

Segments in the leech arise by the proliferation of longitudinally arrayed bandlets of blast cells derived from ten identifiable embryonic stem cells, two M, two N, four O/P and two Q teloblasts. In each bandlet, older blast cells lie ahead of those born later. By using microinjected cell lineage tracers it was shown previously that the teloblasts give rise to characteristic cell patterns made up of segmentally iterated complements of progeny designated as M, N, O, P and Q kinship groups. When a teloblast is injected after it has begun generating blast cells, a boundary is observed later in development between anterior, unlabelled progeny of blast cells produced before injection and posterior, labelled progeny of blast cells produced after injection. We have examined such boundaries in detail to establish the precise relationship between blast cell clones and segments, with the following conclusions: (i) in the M, O and P cell lines, one blast cell generates one segmental complement of progeny, but serially homologous blast clones intermix so that no segment boundaries can be defined based on primary blast cell clones; (ii) in the N and Q cell lines, two blast cells are required to generate a complete segmental complement of progeny; (iii) in the process of forming the germinal plate, cells derived from the N and Q teloblasts move past those derived from the M and O/P teloblasts, so that consegmental blast cell clones do not come into register until well after the establishment of segmentally iterated units within each bandlet.     

Segmental specificity and lateral asymmetry in the differentiation of developmentally homologous neurons during leech embryogenesis

This paper describes the embryonic development of three leech neurons which undergo spatially regulated patterns of differentiation. In leeches, the nervous system arises from an iterated array of embryonic cell lineages, and each neuron is represented by a set of bilaterally symmetric and segmentally repeated homologs. Two of the cells discussed here, the neurons nz4 and mz3, stain with antibodies to the neuropeptides SCP and FMRFamide during the course of their embryonic differentiation, but only a subset of the initially immunoreactive homologs continue to express this immunoreactivity into postembryonic life. Those nz4 cells which retain immunoreactivity are referred to as RAS neurons, and the persistently immunoreactive mz3 cells referred to as CAS neurons. The subset of homologs which show persistent expression is segment specific, such that the mature RAS and CAS neurons occupy different segmental domains. In addition, both neurons display a final pattern of expression which is laterally asymmetric, with only one of the two homologs in each segment maintaining the RAS or CAS phenotype. Asymmetric differentiation can occur in either orientation for any given segment, although there is a very strong tendency for the persistently immunoreactive cells to lie on opposite sides of successive segments. The fate of the transiently immunoreactive homologs is unclear, but labeling with intracellular lineage tracers suggests that there are some mz3 neurons which survive late into postemobryonic life and never express detectable levels of immunoreactivity. Intracellular lineage tracers also allowed us to follow the development of a third neuron, mz4, which does not stain for either peptide. The mz4 neuron is initially paired, but undergoes an asymmetric pattern of cell death which also shows a strong tendency to alternate sides in successive segments. These spatially coordinated patterns of neuronal survival and/or differentiation suggest that cell interactions play a role in determining the developmental choices made by individual neurons, and a subsequent paper will characterize those interactions through experimental manipulation.     

Cell lineage analysis of pattern formation in the Tubifex embryo. I. Segmentation in the mesoderm.

Annelids are strongly segmented animals that display a high degree of metamerism in their body plan. The embryonic origin of metameric segmentation was examined in an oligochaete annelid Tubifex using lineage tracers. Segmental organization arises sequentially in the anterior-to-posterior direction along the longitudinal axis of the mesodermal germ band, a coherent column of primary blast cells that are produced from the mesodermal teloblast. Shortly after its birth, each primary blast cell undergoes a spatiotemporally stereotyped sequence of cell divisions to generate three classes of cells (in terms of cell size), which together give rise to a distinct cell cluster. Each cluster is composed of descendants of a single primary blast cell; there is no intermingling of cells between adjacent clusters. Relatively small-sized cells in each cluster become localized at its periphery, and they form coelomic walls including an intersegmental septum to establish individuality of segments. A set of cell ablation experiments showed that these features of mesodermal segmentation are not affected by the absence of the overlying ectodermal germ band. These results suggest that each primary blast cell serves as a founder cell of each mesodermal segment and that the boundary between segments is determined autonomously. It is concluded that the metameric body plan of Tubifex arises from an initially simple organization (i.e., a linear series) of segmental founder cells.     

Regional differences in BMP-dependence of dorsoventral patterning in the leech Helobdella

In the leech Helobdella, the ectoderm exhibits a high degree of morphological homonomy between body segments, but pattern elements in lateral ectoderm arise via distinct cell lineages in the segments of the rostral and midbody regions. In each of the four rostral segments, a complete set of ventrolateral (O fate) and dorsolateral (P fate) ectodermal pattern elements arises from a single founder cell, op. In the 28 midbody and caudal segments, however, there are two initially indeterminate o/p founder cells; the more dorsal of these is induced to adopt the P fate by BMP5-8 emanating from the dorsalmost ectoderm, while the more ventral cell assumes the O fate. Previous work has suggested that the dorsoventral patterning of O and P fates differs in the rostral region, but the role of BMP signaling in those segments has not been investigated. We show here that suppression of dorsal BMP5-8 signaling (which effects a P-to-O fate change in the midbody) has no effect on the patterning of O and P fates in the rostral region. Furthermore, ectopic expression of BMP5-8 in the ventral ectoderm (which induces an O-to-P fate change in the midbody) has no effect in the rostral region. Finally, expression of a dominant-negative BMP receptor (which induces a P-to-O fate change in the midbody) fails to affect O/P patterning in the rostral region. Thus, the rostral segments appear to use some mechanism other than BMP signaling to pattern O and P cell fates along the dorsoventral axis. From a mechanistic standpoint, the OP lineage of the rostral segments and the O-P equivalence group of the midbody and caudal segments constitute distinct developmental modules that rely to differing degrees on positional cues from surrounding ectoderm in order to specify homonomous cell fates.     

Applications of mRNA injections for analyzing cell lineage and asymmetric cell divisions during segmentation in the leech Helobdella robusta

Synthetic mRNAs can be injected to achieve transient gene expression even for 'non-model' organisms in which genetic approaches are not feasible. Here, we have used this technique to express proteins that can serve as lineage tracers or reporters of cellular events in embryos of the glossiphoniid leech Helobdella robusta (phylum Annelida). As representatives of the proposed super-phylum Lophotrochozoa, glossiphoniid leeches are of interest for developmental and evolutionary comparisons. Their embryos are suitable for microinjection, but no genetic approaches are currently available. We have injected segmentation stem cells (teloblasts) with mRNAs encoding nuclear localized green fluorescent protein (nGFP) and its spectral variants, and have used tandem injections of nGFP mRNA followed by antisense morpholino oligomer (AS MO), to label single blast cell clones. These techniques permit high resolution cell lineage tracing in living embryos. We have applied them to the primary neurogenic (N) lineage, in which alternate segmental founder cells (nf and ns blast cells) contribute distinct sets of progeny to the segmental ganglia. The nf and ns blast cell clones exhibit strikingly different cell division patterns: the increase in cell number within the nf clone is roughly linear, while that in the ns clone is almost exponential. To analyze spindle dynamics in the asymmetric divisions of individual blast cells, we have injected teloblasts with mRNA encoding a tau::GFP fusion protein. Our results show that the asymmetric divisions of n blast cells result from a posterior shift of both the spindle within the cell and the midbody within the mitotic spindle, with differential regulation of these processes between nf and ns.